We explored Hemingway's complicated attitude and unique definition of what constitutes "defeat." After examining the terse dialogue between Lt Henry and the priest, we discussed Lt Henry's observation that the Christian virtue of forgiveness is only held by the defeated, not the victors. But loss is not defeat as Lt Henry paradoxically expresses that victory can be worse than defeat. We discussed this paradox and in what way defeat gives one the opportunity to show true courage and "grace under pressure" while victory does not truly test a man. We further analyzed fatalistic passages wherein Lt Henry expresses that peasants are wise because they realize that they are defeated by their poverty and class status even before they experience actual defeat on the battlefield . I provided instruction on how to prepare an analysis of this passage to assist Joshua in completing tonight's homework .